And in the idea of embracing the chaos, I'm sorry there's a lot of words here, I'm going
to keep them up so folks know what to do.
And if there are things that you're unhappy with Jordan and we can fix them, that's fine.
So the high level idea was to use the AI, CRA and DSA as kind of like the three steps
in your opinion regulation, moving from drafting phases to implementation to application.
And so I'll let you talk to what you want to do is the AI instead and maybe what you want
to put the AI like there or what's the best place?
Yeah, okay perfect.
So do you want to talk to that now and you can ignore this so I can fix it as we speak.
Yeah, sorry about that Toby.
Yeah, for the AI, what I think we'll talk about is like how we can deal with open-washing
because it's becoming a really big problem in Brussels and of course it starts with AI and
it can end up covering more and more software.
So we'd like to have chat if that's okay and I think from the audience questions it would
be good to talk about that as well.
So that's what we're doing this corner if that's okay.
So maybe CRA on one end to the SME do you see our ideas today, I was just, what put
like someone there, all right, okay, so let's see in chaos.
So was the DSA, so I hadn't proposal for the DSA was to generate a bunch of really crazy
ideas of how software could be used in the application phase of software much like what
you're doing.
So if that's something you want to do, you can go ahead with this if you want to do demos
that works too.
So there'll be a mix of that going on and I'll go there with Philippe to work on the CRA and
here is to use a reverse brainstorm and so we're going to try to answer the question
like how do we make sure that the implementation of the CRA is a disaster, right?
The idea of this exercise, it sounds like it's to then reverse, like essentially you
state like how you can do this and then you pass it on to someone else in a second phase
to try to turn that into a solution, right?
So an example would be make sure, you know, if you really want to make it fail and make
sure that like open source can no longer be using Europe, right?
So that would be kind of like the how you would do it and so as a second step we'll try
to, you know, that's going to be well make sure it still can be using Europe.
All right.
So I have a bunch of pens and papers and things for folks who want to use post-its and
so again, AI here, did I say and using open source for application here and we'll go
to do the CRA down in the back, and I'll just leave that up, I didn't know, I didn't know
either, I didn't know either, I didn't know either, I didn't know either, I didn't know
either, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
We can't use any of them, I'll just do it.
Yeah.
All right, everyone.
We have to stay in the watch of you.
Oh, there you are.
Come on.
So let's go.
And let's go up there, Mr.
And away, away from here.
What?
It's interesting.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
That's it.
We'll be here if you want to stay here.
Oh, there's you.
I don't think so.
So be out there.
I love the idea that reverse prints.
Oh, come on.
Let's do it.
Oh.
Come on.
This is not the.
It's a better.
No.
Are you ready?
Are you heading off?
No.
What is your plan?
Wow.
What do you plan?
Yeah, well, but it's not from all the parts of the country.
So, and they don't...
I don't know.
Actually, like, I used to like this one.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's okay.
But...
What's up?
Quite like a street with me.
Seriously?
I don't know.
You get no idea.
That's too good!
Come on now!
Good job!
Bye-bye, அйтр pély!
Close your mouth, my baby!
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I don't know what to do.
I don't know.
And I don't know what to do.
But I don't want to do, but I do.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know.
Also, things like.
I recall and I was always like that too.
Oh, yeah.
I remember so many reasons.
I understand.
Can I just help you?
Oh, well.
I think we'll be about to do it later than gentlemen, if you could, draw your
assault to a close and find a seat please.
OK, could everyone try and take their seats relatively quickly?
We're getting there, we're getting that.
Sure.
You know what I'm going to do?
Microphone.
OK.
Do it.
All right.
OK, everybody good?
OK, we're going to go ahead because we are already behind schedule.
So we're going to start with the DSA team, I think.
And they're going to present their findings answers to the question.
Lots of crazy ideas on how the open source community and can help foster you compliance.
Sorry.
Yeah, it's as you will see, it's like more than open source, it's like open approach ideas.
So we have many ideas on the user interaction with the platform.
So we have a lot of ideas on how users should interact with the platform.
Like methods or API, the platform should expose that for the user, for example, to
export the data to another platform, so a sort of federation for a personal data.
And then there is also the idea to have platforms to automatically expose the
APIs or endpoints to do GDPR like data donation.
So for the user to donate its data to either the investigated team or CSO running a test
or a study, et cetera.
Then there was also something about how can platform check their compliance.
So like a sort of sell service checkbox to check if the platform is compliant or not with
the information.
There was also an idea about if you are big enough or bigger than a threshold.
Then all of your patents and models, et cetera, are public domain, which is very good
wishlist, but let's see.
And then coming back to the user content, the idea to allow or to enforce a
bring your model, especially for a recommender system, which is already done in some
like open, like social media.
And then one really interesting one is also to apply this API terms of service.
So to standardize the way terms of service are written, to have them to be like
programmatically inspectable and to expose like in an open, in the creative
common way, the features of the license with an introducing also a SPAT
SPDX identifier for the license.
And then last one will be to have a unified repository for the advertisement libraries that
are scattered through the platforms now and they use different schemas, different names
for the features et cetera.
So these are the, yeah, the ideas.
That sounds pretty great.
There have been some amazing ideas.
And maybe we'll see some of them implemented in the coming years.
Who knows?
A hundred of an hour to tie B to do the CRI wrap up.
Thank you very much.
So we were trying to answer the question, how I mean, how what, how might we make sure
that the implementation of the CRI is a disaster?
And frankly, you have delivered.
So congratulations to all of you.
Yeah, so we'll figure out a way to put them online, right?
For example, I see here remove old incentives to be a Stuart.
That's a pretty good one.
Ignore all open source producing SMEs.
Okay, that's another good one.
Right, so there are lots of those.
And then they're really interesting solutions to each of one of those, right?
So we'll figure out how to share it with the working group and make it a public,
publicly available resource.
And I'm sure there's some really good ideas in there.
But yeah, thank you very much.
This was fun.
Thank you.
So on AI, we went a bit all over the place.
But the discussion was really, really interesting.
You can see from the chaotic whiteboard.
We started talking about what makes open open.
And had the discussion around reproducibility.
And the challenges opposed with reproducibility for AI,
essentially borderline impossible is the challenge.
But then we've done to discover, discuss other things like the importance of ethics.
You know, should there be ethical considerations in AI?
And we kind of concluded as well that, well, with proprietary out,
you'll never know if it's ethical or not.
We've open AI, you actually have an opportunity or an chance to find out.
We also talked about the importance of building AI that's reason to
learn non-discriminatory and how we could go around achieving that.
Finally, we talked about building stuff at the end of the day.
And emphasize the importance of all of the open source code that we have around AI already.
All of the open source libraries that we've got around it are a great starting point.
And that we're essentially bootstrapping a community,
because people who've never done AI before are coming in using the existing open source stuff
and building on top of that, which is really, really cool.
Yeah, so I think that's about it.
And I think that brings our workshops to a close and we'll be moving on to the next block.