Hello everybody, okay today I'm talking about with five so you know we all
respect guys and I hope everybody here's a risk quite guys in Sunnan and
the NATO okay so the day we talk about how high is risk five and how we're
going to drive it I don't know that I didn't know my is it's okay I just had to
go say okay I hold in it okay and and why we call it unstoppable force behind
linnis on risk five it today we're going to talk about it okay for people
doesn't know me you can you can Google me and and and risk five and
you link and risk five foundation and an laptop you can find me so I'm the
founder of tip computing so and what we're going to do actually I set up the
goal three years ago we only do risk five premium products we have the pioneer
we focus on consumer electronics and you can see Pat and even speed smart
speakers and some more than personal computing device as well laptops and besides
that oh I think the my property going off and on and I do nimo can choke
car and balloon so people should in down so there's all one risk five so what
what risk five is it's a very good person that's why we all in just now
we are on ninnis canals right so it's very big so one day just nine in
this we're going to be mainstream we're going to be
on macOS windows and dry and ninnis so it just same as risk five just as
sooner or later only so it's the 30% of ISA this is going to happen so and when
it's just now David Paterson in in the summit say it's that nowadays there's no
big company you're not talking about risk five so they are all either doing
publicly or either do it privately and secretly they all do in risk five so
you can see so people join risk five join the dance join the stage you we are
going to compete with the big lanes even us now us we're deep computing we're
small team thirty fifty people but we compete with Lenovo we compete with
Dale and the trees and we pull our way our friends to compete so
risk five join his heart it's body heart today how many of you guys know how long
on risk five now when is the day they born and found it anyone knows
where good guess no actually is is 15 years now so and 15 years we hit the
milestone with RBA 23 the first published standard okay so people is you can
see it's long how well but we get in there so you know X86 actually is quite
hard before you know you can compete with a MIPS compete with Solaris
you can be a power you know actually everybody going to her world but it's not
easy but I'm as well I used to run you know I'm a lock here some feature phones
platforms we lock here help um becomes the one-voltaic case in in in feature
phones so you know lock here fail Android comes back welcome come back and then
Mtk as well so risk five what's going to be right this two with everybody
is deep nob shit deep sick AI right AI so how how are we gonna do it so from
2025 it's gonna be AI same as us same as with five so and my analogy why three
years ago I drawn uh uh with five times instead I have an analogy of a
linear's kind of why why why why what is his faith and destiny so what it is all
about openness well it's special when you come into AI your model is trained and you
had to open source in that people see your brain you know how bad is it how good is
it right it's the openness it's all about openness 886 it's a close source it's from
US it's driven by US and it's owned by Intel and AMD or whatever the 886
consortium is right so um it's from Europe from Manchester from SIP company but it's
driven by global without the SMC I'm won't happen without Apple I'm won't happen
without Google I'm won't happen because Nokia only help arm to reach the mid levels
not high performance so so you can see arm is semi-cross and semi-open right it's
owned by arm so arms you can shut down quote come right the logic but because quote
come is it's a defense supplier so we can shut it down right so so this fine is
the from US but now in my way to Europe it's driven by Asia at the moment
because geopolitics right it's about at the end of the day when in this
can know same as nines can know it belongs to humanity it's not a race it's not a
country it's not a government so it's belongs to everyone it's open up you
understand it you can make it right my dream is that everybody in the university can
make a chip with open source IP core IP open source DDR open source PCIE and everybody
can fabric in the FPGA right it's a matter of better or worse but we do have
it's owned by humanity so it's same as nines can know that's why I say
this fight is fun it's about humanity to be open we open we improve and we
accept people's advantage it is a one-titch so and we we make the world better
world it's not a shitty world nine now we know so it's real hard this fight is
rare hard the third year now you know people asking me my my boy asking me
when you're gonna make money now it's I don't know now I do not know so and I
remember Lutai the chairman on risk five foundation is asked in Taiwan Taipei
they say I raise a question what the state we are and then Lutai the chairman
of foundation says we are in a deep depth lock cycle what is it what is that the
software guy waiting for the hardware guy hardware guy waiting for the IP guy and
then go around the circle chasing the tail right doesn't make money but nothing
I can do so we try to break the circles so for me deep computing all we
sell out to do is get this fight into you guys hand I make the for both
expensive laptop the first risk file laptop is $5,000 I make 200 of them and there's
200 crazy guys to pay me that but I do I still make lost but you know that's the
ways but I keep going so 2024 I made another versions so wow and there's another
crazy guy 500 guys enough for it for my tapric for my laptop and it's rare
affordable price is every user selling price around $400 so that's what we do so
and and what how how I do these things high tail so and and I basically is
that low one desire so see for laptop you know because when did this
I didn't they level can imagine what the hell we want to make a laptop right
and and I remember one of the shareholder tricker me saying that you
need this there's no way we want to make a well-being boy so you can't make
name of it but you can't make money of it so what's the point and then I think
works the hardest product to make wow laptop it's body hard you know first of
all the SOC guy or the IP guy when they decided it they not decided it for
laptop they don't know what they designed it for they put everything inside but
none of them works but no that's the world right so we in both you know we keep
territory telling them you should do it their way used to their ways to their way so
we involve all the IP and SOC guy and even the system guy so and and the other
thing is that I find it satisfies rare fun it is because the way is because it
represents the openness to of a humanities it's just a nine in this that's why
we have a what 10,000 people he invoked and right this first ever time in my life
I was a software guy but I'm rare close so I'm so rare guy I used to work for a zero
off right everything is close source from a tool chain to always to chipset and then I
walk on on Java is same rare close right since or are these things but we
inspire people we inspire people with openness so we we keep introduce more potential
guys coming to join us just as I say now for for for this five people
back in five years ago then they designed the IP people have different KPIs and
SOC as well they all have a big KPI but they do not know what you do to compete with
right so and then we come up a lot of problems so we have a recommendation issue
with a technical compatibility issue and also we have all the alignment,
priority alignments, all different so nobody needs it to me because I'm small at the time
but now I'm quite big and everybody trying to uh copala with us and they make better
and also the problem of respite is that when you look at all the people on all the respite
portfolio companies actually all together it's still smaller than I'm you know 102 into
company probably all add it up all together it's not even as big as I'm so it's very small
so resources so everybody's running against their life so but you know how we do it
differently we've been open we can be slow right and then we have to evolve in different
stages so like us we make we decide to make motherboard with the oldest chips the first
chip has produced chips it's small is slow but we we spin it around so in different stages
and then we continue going around circles right then we introduce a lot of polish around it
for framework you went to federal or whoever in different stages so that's me and and we manage to
convince you know I tell an I tell sports and and canonical and not charging me an arm
for putting well you went to logo on it thank you very much and because yeah we we we
develop a lab with federal as well and trying to get federal or visual support of it but we all
lack of the server so so now and and I'm very honored this five foundation giving me
contributor war so you guys know me besides anime money I'm still trying where are
yeah so we got oh you went to federal or no our laptop now it's still where we have one progress
and hopefully by 2025 you went to will build their image to support us officially so every
them from 2025 hopefully you went to can do it it's a long way to go so and then last step you know
I'm a software guy after I make two laptops myself I finally know man this hard to hard well
you lose it money you sleep in the factory it's very hard I say I don't enjoy it and then
lucky enough I find one guy and they call framework enough I ping him on twitter saying
can I back you right and you do the shell I do the motherboard and then say oh why
lot we're open so that's it all right so that's I say every stage differently and we
follow with different partners to make this fight to do you guys head and hope you guys can
have a longer enjoyment or no a product instead of a short term by one our tablet and then
you get legacy um yeah poverty this so that that is the the ways so now we we have very happy
in the you you went to submit and then we all announce all these crazy things so and and in
this laptop everything's five five school driver on the back and then
and five school on the fun and five cables and then you can swap the motherboard so people
have no more excuse it's not using this five you can swap back to x86 okay so go and buy a free
walk you're right going buy a free walk for your kids for yourself for your company the reason
being is that it's affordable it's an environmental you only need one laptop for your whole life
and you can be upgraded right so go for it okay even though now it's just only a few hundred
more expensive but look in the tongue in the nine for five three year five years seven years
it's much more cheaper and it's better to the wall there's no one buying the novel xb and del
it's a snye just now we mean this guy why I want to use windows why this is so
better than it's now I'm trying to solve the biggest problem of this five
as I say now you know I'm in core calm and empty game you put in a load software engineering
in guarantee of streaming this fight doesn't have the last stories right so and and you know
as I say even now I can put you windows no go on the framework right but naturally they don't build
the image I build it right but they're dangerous and the other thing is that the ring reason is not
enough streaming very well well just now I see email if somewhere so emails have been working
with us very hard and we try to get silc we call it SDK the the the the ninis can
know SDK give it to us and in which kind of stream whatever the device driver device tree
and all these things because you know every every strike company we have a scare resources
like and make it up ship even harder so and I turn to guard and I turn to liners say can you give
us green night everything we submitted just let it go not go in food uh the the review cycle
this very buddy rainbow it takes body nine months right so and then what I'm sorry come back
so go ahead saying that 12 years ago I made a video and he has the video so good people can
on you can read about it say okay so see guy when you do an FPGA please up streaming so yeah
so that will solve the problem so of course I I try to push and as we can to push the IP guy
push the so see guy upstream as much as possible making the chips much simpler as possible so so
2005 for framework laptops for all the motherboard going to make we're going to hopefully
they're all off streaming okay once they're out they're all off stream support there's only one
thing doesn't support everybody guess what's not going to support it under upstream man
keep it exactly that's exactly the same as liners 20 years ago right the two finger give it to
whole the most wearable company and media same thing responds you given that to GPU
by anyway nothing we can do it unless we are rich enough to buy off the GPU company I will open
this source it all the way right come on you reverse here are the damage come on stop making
an open source GPU put it into the FPGA and then we can start using no matter how slow how fast
it is it's better than nothing right so and yeah I talk about a little rubbish I give you
sometimes an exciting things and in 2024 we got framework for course motherboard coming yeah
it's mesh produce now you can get it on our website you can get it on our framework's website
our website and if we if we don't drop the ball we're going to have 64 core build machine
to guarantee you burn to wrap hat to give me their official support image best of luck
and then more exciting things we're going to have a core AI coming future so it's going to be
as usual we're going to be announcing to some of it okay people do join the
research some of it in Paris I'm going to try my heart is to be French there
and I might do a one last longer focal affordable cloud desktop and make sure people
low more excuses not using this file I give you cloud desktop right a laptop and then you can
call to the windows and do your PowerPoint right and then and hopefully along end of the year we
have a 12 course system called coming and then for the framework 16 inch with all the powerful GPU
AI car PCIe stuff so so people talk about deep say deep say right and we cannot afford
low to talk about here right so this is our our latest research sorry I you can take a picture
but you can't see nothing here anyway so there's two two cluster there chip that so it's going to
be uh two gigahertz a core right and there's going to be sister GLDI we're going to be better than
NVIDIA extensions okay and the the land of well-aways a gigahertz but we're going to have 50
tops AI but I don't know how to use it yet and I live to deep-sit the final how to use it and then
we are very powerful in order so it's it's going to be very good for AI generally what are we
image here so last year we're going to have all the first them with bi-generated image around
and stick on the wall so and we're going to have our review I want to zero immigration on the DSP so
good luck to me yeah so and hopefully you can put down and also because it's a motherboard
you can stuck in there and and and it just runs so and and now take this opportunity
and I call for the applications so we have 50 tops and once we are nons
probably in in research I submit in Paris so we call for the applications and you guys you guys can
and help and find out how to use deep-sick right to do the problem on the device side
and why device AI is important even in more in reinforcement training and an inference because
you don't want your data to go up to the cow right give it to the money pretty guys go go
Microsoft whoever you don't want your data give it to them you're on them all right so
and and even you can generate video we have very powerful video encoder and a very powerful
so you guys think about it and also we can use a video conference and I remember I think
we've we we'll see guys here right so we can do some video conferencing or video
translation guy things and using deep-sick translated to all different language and make the whole
Europe you know our Europe you know we've got 30 languages becomes one right so and and
you know hopefully less yeah we need to when I do here I can do all the live translations
into all different dialects and also we are looking into web API web GPU equivalent will
call it web LOM stuff people can begin to stand up and help to use whatever the hardware we're going
going down and we probably can do this call as well so people can imagine it's of course last
below least is robotics so and and use people can think about using the framework motherboard
pinning to their robotics and and start using biop types you to drive or the peripherals
so if anyone wants a talk and wants a let wheels robot a photo come find me all right
yeah here you're going to find me in in the booth it's free and talk to me and that's it that's all
for me thank you very much thank you well we might have five minutes for questions okay good if
there's any if there's any I went on framework website to see this motherboard but it's still
not available I cannot buy it so yeah when it will be available for a car after Chinese new year
they all shut down the half the world shut down you know the whole you know and you
didn't pick a look the map the world actually half the world post okay so you mentioned that you
work for zerox and some and then all of a sudden sort of you decided to do that sort of open
work for humanity as you said well what was the thing that's put you to this change of heart
oh I tell you what I do my twenty years back twenty five years career back so my first
job I was doing my PhD I didn't grant and then zerox hired me and back in food is zerox everything's
co-source what happened to the co-source company did I right same as us right if we're close where
close we're gonna block them anything else from someone else right so and I would say that and open
this is very important such as as a human such as a team such as a company and open is
very important this is destiny is a matter of time my Linus Linus gone through the whole
very difficult period time but they now they're mainstream so so tough openness per well
closer dying just a matter of time keep computing watch and phone when oh it's
found it in the cover all right we we make the first laptop talk 18 months and a lot of people
even lawyer writing to the foundation saying that this is a scam they got us money but they
were the deal because in covid you can't get the supply chain to work and now the second thing
I don't have experience but you know we we did it is 2023 and the first aroma we call it
aroma because Rome is not built in a day right so and also and the good thing is because
our staff from us risked with more you know Rome so that is 2023 now 2024 hopefully by 2025 with the
AIPC coming very powerful and hopefully become getting into the mainstream right that's why we aim
to do regarding phones and watches have you had any collaboration with pine 64 people?
no no you know I should I'm open you know I the prices before is
unsmanly for mom I unsmanly from risk fight even is losing people are afraid what I can't I can't
sell windows why I'm doing this why can I why all we've got to focus yeah I think a
best quick question we will I raise the question to the Swiss government and we we should ask
European Union to make sure windows support is fight otherwise find their money right that we walk
thank you very much my pleasure my owner here
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