Questions then? Do you take the opportunity of the corridor hallway track to find folks
and connect and talk about everything you've been learning at Boston? And with that
thank you, I've got Peppain here to talk about public spaces. Thank you.
I've worked for public spaces. I've worked for public spaces, public spaces.
I'll just pick up. I'll look for public spaces as a network organization in the
Netherlands of 40 public organizations, mostly cultural organizations,
broadcasts, because we've lined it out, probably we have municipalities, we have
the organizations, the public health, because we've been in the
community, and all these organizations work for one common gas to cost
create more of a digital public space and to become less dependent of big
tech solutions. Together with these organizations, we started
the program called the next socials, because we see these
organizations, we see public broadcasters, we see public
service, we see organizations, education, all having the same sort of
needs, we need a community platform, we need a social platform, we need a
way to communicate with our audience, with our municipalities,
and to make sure they don't make choices that would buy each other with
feed of each other. They work together, we started the program called
socials, to bring all those energy in the Netherlands together.
We talked to these people a lot, but what we never did is actually
do research, actually get some data from them, so what we did is we
have these 40 organizations in our network, we made it in a selection of
10 of these organizations, and we did a little interview,
15 minutes interviews, about what do you need from this
provider to use it, because we see the adoption is slow, there's a lot of
willingness, but there's not a lot of energy, so what happens,
why do we all have a gut feeling about this, but we didn't have any
data. So we did, we asked him, I did 15 minutes of
13 little interviews, and I was in first, what's better for
us to use? 42% of these organizations, and mind
you this data doesn't say anything about all public organizations or
all public organizations in the Netherlands, this is just
your opinion of 10 of the front runners or nine of the front runners
in the Netherlands. So all these people, 42% used a
method on 70% use speech, 8% use pixel fat, and 30% use
non of these platforms at all. So we were kind of expecting this,
but we wanted to know why, why, what are the main
reasons for your organization not yet working with these
federal stores? The main thing, everybody said, well, the yield
could, in the comparison to commercial platforms. We put in a lot of
effort, but we don't know what we're going to get out of it. We don't have a
small department for communication, we have limited resources, the
thing you probably all know, the second one is also
compared to that, we don't have enough time, we don't have enough
capacity, and then there's some insufficient knowledge in
house, and there's some familiarity, but this one is the main focus.
We don't, we're not sure about the yield of these platforms.
So this is a technical platform, we ask you what technical
improvements we most accelerate the adoption for your organization,
which is closely related to the first question is more
discoverability, more findability, more easier ways to build our networks.
But far, 30% of your organization, that's the main
issue we're running into, and there's some issues about usability,
there's some issues about installation, interesting
areas, it's not a technical thing, although almost nobody said
it will be, we need more deaths, we need more technical stuff.
So that's a good thing, it's mostly an organization of things.
Yeah, what challenges do you encounter most often when you're using
the Federal Suwell? Not surprisingly, public audience, numbers,
priority, building our networks, it's more or less
Internet connection, but it's one thing, we also kind of
sort of expect support. One of the things I often hear when I
talk to you is a type of organization, our IG department doesn't support it,
so we can use it, and we are sort of kind of expecting them to say
this, so we'll be kind of asking, what kind of support do you need?
But we should organization need to work with the editors.
This data doesn't really come aside, but what we know, because we need
access to a health test, we have access to technical support,
but they also say, well, we need training for employees, and we have
to exchange with other public institutions to get some knowledge, some
examples, some best practices, and again, during the RG
party, it isn't really that interesting here.
What we did is, I don't know how to go back.
We already knew this, people need access to a health test, so we started
in the last week at public spaces, is a health test for the
editors, so when we open to go to public spaces, we'll
let them go around, button with the Federal
logo, you can click on it, all public organizations in
to get this part out of the way.
Our health test doesn't support us, we'll do your
health test, see what that does for us.
Then we asked them the other way around, the
two public organizations do to help these developers, so
not just to help you as developers help in public
organizations, but what would they do to help you, and we saw
that almost 30% of them say, we can give financial
organizational support.
There's a lot of willingness with
been in these organizations to get support of the
organization.
For instance, I spoke to the municipality of Amsterdam, and
they switched from WhatsApp to signal, and it was
said we had a business model there.
We paid for that, signal we paid nothing, so they decided
to give, what was it?
Fifty cents per user to signal per year.
The municipality of Amsterdam has 15,000 employees, so
there's seven and a half thousand euros.
They doubled it so they get 15,000 euros to signal every
year.
Those types of constrictions are really willing to do, so
that's something we could learn from.
I think that's switched.
This one, I missed.
The other one over here, so what are the main reasons for
not using is for public organizations is also a
judicial thing.
There's no compliance.
We need a ISO certification.
We need a GP.
So this is another issue for these organizations
to adopt it.
So take away from this talk.
Since I want more minutes left.
The most important thing for these public organizations is
visibility, usability, building and effort.
That's the most the thing that's holding them back most.
They need support in some way or not, so if you want to help them
support.
And the other way around, they're also helping
willing to give you support.
So reach out to them.
They're more than willing to help you to pay you to help
the developers grow.
And then the last one, compliance.
Make sure you have a ISO certification.
Do DPS have all sorts of types of seals.
So they can have a feeling of trust.
And nothing goes wrong with these Fediverse tools.
That's all I have time for, unfortunately.
The future, free to reach out,
and be around here somewhere.
Look at the public spaces, websites.
Take our news letter.
We have a message on channel.
We have a chat room.
And thank you.
Great.
We immediately have a question here.
And that's the only one we'll take to this session.
Thank you.
I wonder on compliance.
GDPR, compliance, and the production impact assessment.
I was expecting it would be very standard across all the agencies.
Is that or do you see some variation and variety?
No.
It's mostly for public organization.
I spoke to an organization that this IT service for secondary education.
We can't have this go wrong.
I have to prove to my boss that we will have a data lease.
We have to have some form of certainty.
And it doesn't really matter what type of certainty this.
It could be any type of certification, any type of certainty or fake certainty.
You can give to these organizations, which help, especially these public organizations,
I love.
So if they don't have it, you'll never adopt it.
Okay.
One more time.
Thank you.