The work for an organization that's completely modern and fully AI enables.
It's I can, which is the organization that runs the DNS and apart from showing the
AI enabled first page I have to show this.
I can is a bunch of meetings, a bunch of consensus finding, not my favorite task, but
I'm very glad that we do it, particularly this year, I appreciate actual cooperation and
it's hard.
There are 200 countries, maybe 500 or 1000 organizations that need to cooperate in order
to have a single internet for all of us.
The technical side of I can include things like issuing numbers.
You probably know all of those four numbers.
It also includes IP addresses and much else and many more fringe tasks.
There's someone probably somewhere I can today who researchers DNS bugs, searches.
Why are there so many lookups for domains in the .tu e top level domain, but only on
Tuesdays.
The bug didn't apply to Monday.
Somebody has to do this in order to make the DNS work.
It's our job.
My job is to learn with unique codes.
Ideancy is about using about a quarter of unique codes for domains, 35,000 code points, not
all of them.
In nights during the bare and food event, I will be happy to talk a bit about that.
My job is about using the same part of unique codes in everything else.
Most notably email addresses.
Well, and everything else.
I do that because I want to use my skills to help the world forwards.
That's also why I'm an ITF contributor.
I have maybe 15 RFCs and I have written a truckload of open servers with past 30 years.
I've used the same email address for 30 years.
Anyone else?
No.
Come right.
Wow.
No, too.
Verified.
And I'm self-hosted for almost all of that time.
Last year, I needed to test some self-hostible webmail systems because some people, for
example, in India, using Devon Array, want that.
So I found some.
I tested them in the course of doing that.
I learned about webmail.
It's very much better than it was five years ago.
Since despite having used mutt, news, MH, that kind of two before 30 years, I now actually
use webmail.
I send HTML email.
Feel free to interrupt me on the way.
The new webmail systems that we have might appeal to many people who like self-hostible
testing in general, even if it has been much too difficult in the past decades.
There's a group of systems that are just webmail.
They tend to use SNTP and IMAP and access a mail store somewhere.
Some of them can actually access your mail running at Gmail.
It's entirely clear to me why one would want to do that, but open source, if you can do
what they want.
Then we have a set of webmail systems that drive for feature parity with the big freemail
hosties.
Most notably contacts and calendar, but files are also appearing.
These people overlap with the J-MAP crowds.
How many people know about J-MAP?
Nothing.
And then there's the total takeover system to where you copy your email there, forget what
you had before.
It's not a mail, the purist of the pure webmail systems with mentioning, well, because
it's the purist really, it's a small email system.
It just received your email, answers your email, and tries to be really fast about it.
Yes, and IMAP had written one of the IMAP RFCs and contributed to most of them, surprised
by how well it's able to use IMAP.
It's quick and done, a very pleasant user experience.
Part of that comes from Rayen Luke, which is for support from, part of that is strong focus
on actually being snappy.
They benchmark.
They care.
That's almost the only thing they do care about.
It has to be fast.
It has to be pleasant to use.
There aren't many features.
The important feature is, though, RFC-6154, which is, which is an RFC from Google describing
the magic Gmail mailboxes, like archive.
If many IMAP service support that by and by, if the IMAP service supports it, then it
just works, and there's a single button to archive lots of mail without really reading
it.
Snappy.
Is anyone here really happy about the PHP programming language?
Especially when I worked on some code last year, I contribute to a lot of things that
was quite simply good code, PHP, it's possible.
The greatest respect for the people who do that.
Now, I have the greatest respect for the people who brought an actual good code slide
to PHP.
The more important, perhaps, is that it's regularly updated.
There will be a talk later today that may stimulate some people to issuing quick new releases
to fix some minor problems.
They will do that.
I'm sure.
The mail libraries are forged, they're from, they write IMAP themselves really, started
with libraries, and now they write IMAP themselves, and they do it well.
The emphasis on performance has led to an IMAP client that doesn't make mistakes.
As an IMAP head, I don't look at the protocol trace and see, oh, God.
It's just fast and correct.
It's so fast and correct that this is the one I use despite it being written in PHP.
It looks like this.
How many of you have seen this spam?
I found it by random chance while I was testing these tools, and used it for my
screen shot because it's not anyone's private data.
Getting screenshots through communications review is a very hard job where I work.
It's a simple interface, it's workable, you click these things and it works.
After we have Alps, which is much the same in many ways, except different.
Also really focused on email and using your existing service, assuming that you're happy
with those.
But if you do have existing calendar and contact service, CalDAV and CardDAV, then it will
be used those automatically.
If the server has IMAP metadata support, then we'll use that as well, which is where it
deviates slightly from the read-only file also, because that data is stored in a way
that's visible only to Alps.
To me, Alps seems a little bit more focused on providers, web hosters who will provide
this to their customers and do configuration.
Perfectly usable for someone who's self-hosts.
I set it up in an hour or two.
Not a problem.
I had to set up CalDAV to get it working, get it working as I wanted, but it's workable even
for a single user, but you have to configure it.
The code may be seen as nicer by many people.
It doesn't modern go, it receives updates, that's important to me.
I really do want that if something happens, there will be a quick update.
The documentation for this slide is a little more worthy than the total documentation.
But the code is very nice.
The code is very nice.
Use a stock libraries, again, it uses IMAP and it's in to be flawlessly.
And I believe that there should be a maintainer in this room, no?
Correct, the approach is to, yep, go and praise the increase in nice go codes and ask
him for a better documentation.
Exactly the opposite is representative for, oh, screenshot first, is this IMAP, no sorry,
is this info serency H, in 1991, or is it a modern web mail system?
This is what happens if you just compile it and run it.
You have to configure this thing, the HTML is good, it's fast, and if you give it style
the same thing turns into this, it's the same spam, I think I didn't redirect the sender
quite as well, but I reacted to my own address up there.
Again, it's very fast, oddly, it doesn't have quite the same snappy feeling.
Once you learn it, it's good.
Currier is the opposite.
Currier is also good.
However, oh, in Currier, with a K, if anyone remembers Currier, with a C, this is not that.
Proder opposite.
That was small programming, and another small programming, this is a bunch of note
Js and so many documents that installing it on a gigabit connection to 15 minutes.
I don't know, some people like that style, other people don't, certainly there's a lot
of code reuse going on, and very, very many features, extremely good documentation.
We'll do everything in a sense, if you want local web mail system that looks nice and
copies the mail from your Gmail and sends it out directly via SMTP, we'll do that.
If you want something that copies your mail from Office 365, and delete it from Office 365,
and supports sending mail merge with giant attachments via a send grid, if you generally
like NodeJs, when I wrote this, I said, very rapid development and new, which was entirely
true, but in the post couple of weeks, there have been no commits, until then we're
then three or five minutes every day, extremely rapid development.
To me, it seems to emphasize a single user more, and really want to give single users experience
like the big hostess, extremely pleasant, very, well, a single page app, a nice modern
single page app, and last, which came in for special reasons, is a mail server with a special
feature.
It has been mentioned here before.
The key feature here is that this mail server does not let you make a mistake such that
Gmail rejects your mail.
Many people think it's difficult to configure a mail so that Gmail Office 365 now
Yahoo will accept your mail.
This is a mail server that stores your mail locally, has webmail, has iMac, has everything
you want, and pretty much forces you to have a correct configuration.
And it checks.
When you install it, it connects to Gmail and checks that this looks right.
It's small, it's fast.
This is not NodeJS and Docker.
However, much like apps, it requires that you put some effort into it.
You have to learn how to do backups to yourself, and everyone should do backups.
And it's worse than apps in that respect, because you have to copy your mail into it.
You have to do migration using something like iMacSync.
There's more, however, I ran out of patience while discussing with the comes department
what I can and cannot say.
That's also why I didn't have a screenshot for a career.
If you want to show you the unredacted screenshot of that spam lady.
Same app, rather encourages making single-page apps, and I think someone in the room
is doing that.
It will be great when it comes.
So what we have is a new generation of email tools and it's still growing.
Some of the old tools are still improving.
Mail in the box and roundtube have both had fairly recent releases.
The number of options is growing.
From my point of view, this is great.
I want the net to be there for people.
There's a lot.
I want to tell this slide about the sweet new week.
In summary, what we have now is a new generation tool that gives people options.
People such as me who have an old mail store, there are options for us in the plural.
For people who are not happy with wherever they're made is now, there's an option
mox, for example, there are other options.
I mention mox because it's an all in one thing.
For people who are a little bit more modern than I, I want to have an appetite for
docket, and want to do these complex things with Gmail, I'm extremely happy that we now
have options in the plural.
As I said before, it's still growing.
Highlands, JMAP thing will be presented later today.
Stollward will be presented later today.
This is simply a selection that I picked with the available working time I had in order
to find something that could be recommended.
The result was much better than I hoped, and several of these things actually do support
unicode email.
And even well, I have links to all of them and guess what, I have to show one more I can
paint.
That's right.
Yes.
So, you say do you think that actually this approach of having a single
or running a web mail is good one, is that what you would refer?
Well, do you think that is because you think it's going to be more
snappy or faster, and am I hearing that why do you think
that the JMA should actually be the future of the building
to a webbed line, or the personal PNSA user for it?
OK, I am third repeat the question.
The question in short was about whether single page applications
are better in my personal opinion.
Wow, my personal opinion.
I'm here to provide internet for people,
and we see that the user's migrates in vast numbers
to single page applications, Gmail, more than anyone else.
I think that says that the people have decided.
Now, the question also asked for my personal opinion.
And as well as I have one in that of the testing,
I just continued using a single page application.
It was not put I expected, but it is what I did.
So clearly, there is something in single page applications
that appeals to me as well.
But I think users are the key here, and the users
have voted very strongly for single page applications
at the big mail hosties in the past years.
No, that's.
Yeah.
Another question for the audience is, well,
I'm wondering how many people are using a web mail at all, instead of
using a web mail, is that only web mail or not using web mail?
The last ones were not web mail, or something like that.
Well, I was in the not web mail camp until this.
Now, I use a combination of news in e-mix.
Oh, that's over.
And e-mix, now, and snappy mail, which, oh, and smart phone
mail as well, it.
Does it make sense?
Well, my fingers know these things.
All right, there's one more question.
Does the question was, does Mox provide web mail?
It does provide a web mail.
It works fairly well.
When you look at it, you'll probably
come to the conclusion that Mox is an excellent programmer.
But it works.
I wasn't annoyed.
I got you a relationship.
Oh, and I wanted to show that, but I was too late to review
what's too difficult.